Christians and Liberals

Today I found a news article about the ACLU supporting freedom of Religion … for Christians!

Giving credit where credit is due, I found that link at this blog.

I have some comments to make about Christians, liberals, and conspiracy theories:

Christians and Liberals

Once, as I was waiting in line to pay at a Chinese restaurant, I heard one Christian tell another this story:

I had someone ask me the other day, “Are you a democrat?”

I told them, “No, I’m a Christian.”

There are times when no one can compete with Christians for slander. It seems that as soon as we start thinking conspiracy, then we can lie, distort, and slander to our heart’s content in order to prove it.

I believe in evolution. I have no problems with the Christian who tells me, “I believe the Bible says the earth was created 6,000 years ago in 6 days, and I’m not interested in scientific evidence because I don’t trust science.”

No problem. I think you’re going to be disappointed as it becomes more and more obvious that life evolved and as more and more churches give in to the overwhelming evidence for evolution, but I have no problem with you trusting your interpretation of the Bible–you’re not actually trusting the Bible, just your confident interpretation of it–over science.

I have no problem, either, with you telling me that my loose interpretation of the Bible is inaccurate and my confidence in science and its rather notable accomplishments will prove a bad idea.

However, when people start accusing scientists of lying when they are not liars and of deception when they are honest researchers, then I get angry. It’s not right, and it’s all the more not right from Christians.

ACLU and Liberalism

The ACLU has taken some outrageous stands. Their idea of separating church and state is sometimes ridiculous. Kids should be allowed to pray and hold Bible studies in school just like other kids hold chess matches in school.

However, the ACLU is not simply anti-Christian. It is no surprise to me that they jumped to the defense of the Christian mom who wanted to send Scripture to her son in jail.

The ACLU does not take stands against Bible study in schools, conducted by students and not faculty, except on rare occasions, when they go too far.

I’m not saying I agree with their campaign to remove the 10 commandments from courtrooms, but removing the 10 commandments from courtrooms is completely consistent with their purposes.

Christian Governments

Christian governments have a history of being awful.

Many Christians would agree with me that the church fell under Constantine in the early 4th century. How did that church fall?

It fell by obtaining a Christian government and a Christian nation.

Those are bad things. REALLY bad things.

Defeating the ACLU

Do you want to defeat the ACLU? Do you want the populace to have such respect for the 10 commandments that the ACLU can’t remove them from courthourses?

Then let’s have judgment begin with those who call themselves the house of God.

There’s a reason the ACLU has so much influence. There’s a reason that we’re becoming such a secular, pleasure-loving, God-hating nation.

Because there’s so little light and so little salt coming from those who claim to be God’s people.

That’s what we need to fix. You’re never going to force people to obey your religion, and it’s a bad thing to try.

Christianity became so popular that in the Roman empire that by the 3rd century they had some influence in the places they lived. That happened because of the power of their lives that drew more and more citizens into the churches.

We would do well to emulate them.

About Paul Pavao

I am married, the father of six, and currently the grandfather of two. I run a business, live in a Christian community, teach, and I am learning to disciple others better than I have ever been able to before. I believe God has gifted me to restore proper foundations to the Christian faith. In order to ensure that I do not become a heretic, I read the early church fathers from the second and third centuries. They were around when all the churches founded by the apostles were in unity. I also try to stay honest and open. I argue and discuss these foundational doctrines with others to make sure my teaching really lines up with Scripture. I am encouraged by the fact that the several missionaries and pastors that I know well and admire as holy men love the things I teach. I hope you will be encouraged too. I am indeed tearing up old foundations created by tradition in order to re-establish the foundations found in Scripture and lived on by the churches during their 300 years of unity.
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4 Responses to Christians and Liberals

  1. Shammah says:

    A literal understanding of Genesis is an important issue, and it’s one all those who believe in evolution have to deal with. However, the danger lies on both sides: holding a literal understanding when the literal understanding is not what God meant can get you focused on earthly things rather than spiritual things.

    Evolution is not driven by a desire to eliminate God. It’s driven by evidence discovered in science. Once someone spends time in science, it’s easy to see what discoveries drove Darwin, and even some before Darwin, to consider evolution.

    Atheists do use evolution to justify their atheism, but evolution was not considered for the purpose of eliminating God. History makes that clear.

  2. While i do not believe i macro evolution, from polywogs to polar bears, and I actually do not know enough to engage in this debate, both creationists and atheists will tell you why a literal understanding Genesis is important, and the problems with theistic evolution. Evolution seems largely driven by a desire to eliminate God, and even I.D is scoffed at, and perhaps creationists have at least tempered their claims by presenting some problems with evolution. Yet it is inaccurate to portray evolution as a dying animal, as is often down by some creationists.

  3. Robin says:

    Personally I don’t see why Christians get all worked up over creationism/darwinism.

    I don’t think Jesus is going to really care at “your big interview” about which side of the fence you were on that issue, He is just going to care if you did his will……

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