Welcome to PaulFPavao.wordpress.com

Wow, was I astounded to find that PaulPavao.wordpress.com had been taken. It’s not even being used! I am making an attempt to move here because I have struggled so much with getting a design I like it with wordpress.org software. Over my head, I guess. If this blog gets any traffic, I’ll pay the yearly fee and get the ads taken off it.

Okay, first post is a question my wife asked me!

Acts 13:48 – It says, “and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.” Luke [writer of Acts] preceded Calvin. It sounds like there’s a doctrine here that Luke believed. Is there more in the early church writings that gives us a clue on just what was passed down from the apostles on this subject?

Here was my response, by email, to my wife who is downstairs homeschooling our children.

Oddly enough, there is not a single reference to that passage in the first five volumes of the Ante-Nicene Fathers. The index says there’s no references to that verse in the entire 10 volumes!

Well, here’s my answer to Acts 13:48, if not theirs. The early Christians talk all the time about “the number of the elect.” There are a certain amount that will be saved.

That sounds like Calvinism, but the early Christians speak against predestination often, very often.

The way to reconcile that is to realize that while they didn’t believe in predestination in the sense of God choosing what each individual would do, he did foreknow everything they would do. The elect are those that God foreknew would respond to the Gospel. There’s a number of those, and once we find them all and preach the Gospel to them, by preaching the Gospel to everyone, the Lord will return.

That was definitely not their only criterion for the Lord returning. They liked to tie it to 6000 years, though their 6000 years is long gone, though it was marked by a very significant event, the fall of Rome–of at least the city itself. The last emperor to rule in Rome was deposed by Goths right at the 6,000 year mark.

Anyway, way off subject there.

Oh, here’s an example in the second chapter of the first writing in the ANF series:

Clement says first that the Corinthians, after they repented because of Paul’s letters, used to pray and be anxious day and night “for the whole brotherhood” that “the number of God’s elect might be saved with mercy and a good conscience.”

In chapter 46, he says, “Let us cleave … to the innocent and righteous, for these are the elect of God.”

On foreknowledge from Justin’s First Apology 28:

And that he would be sent into the fire with his host, and the men who follow him, and would be punished for an endless duration, Christ foretold. For the reason why God has delayed to do this, is His regard for the human race. For He foreknows that some are to be saved by repentance, some even that are perhaps not yet born. In the beginning He made the human race with the power of thought and of choosing the truth and doing right, so that all men are without excuse before God; for they have been born rational and contemplative.

I could find at least a dozen passages like these on both subjects.

I then added a sentence about loving her that didn’t seem appropriate to write to any of you, so I left that out.

I do want to add that I think the greatest difficulty that non-Calvinists have when confronted by a Calvinist is their use of Romans 9. Because it is true that Paul said God can do anything he wants without answering to us, they argue that he predestined only a few to be saved, and everyone else is eternally tormented because that’s his will.

Romans 9 says nothing of the sort. He did choose Pharaoh to be an instrument of wrath. He did choose Jacob over Esau. Paul uses that at argue that it was okay for God to harden the Jews temporarily so that the Gentiles could obtain mercy now and the Jews would all be saved in the future. He does not argue, or even mention, that God decides in advance who will receive grace, and thus be saved, and who won’t.

The Scriptures say that God wants everyone to be saved, and it says it repeatedly. The Calvinist response that “all men” and “the world” mean “only the elect” is really just too silly to refute. If you believe that, go on with your believing. I can’t refute that kind of logic because it’s not logical.

I am convinced that those who make such terrible arguments already know they are not true. I am making it a policy not to waste my time or raise my blood pressure trying to prove their arguments are false when they already know they are.

About Paul Pavao

I am married, the father of six, and currently the grandfather of two. I run a business, live in a Christian community, teach, and I am learning to disciple others better than I have ever been able to before. I believe God has gifted me to restore proper foundations to the Christian faith. In order to ensure that I do not become a heretic, I read the early church fathers from the second and third centuries. They were around when all the churches founded by the apostles were in unity. I also try to stay honest and open. I argue and discuss these foundational doctrines with others to make sure my teaching really lines up with Scripture. I am encouraged by the fact that the several missionaries and pastors that I know well and admire as holy men love the things I teach. I hope you will be encouraged too. I am indeed tearing up old foundations created by tradition in order to re-establish the foundations found in Scripture and lived on by the churches during their 300 years of unity.
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2 Responses to Welcome to PaulFPavao.wordpress.com

  1. Ben says:

    Shammah, I’m excited to see this site. Have you considered consolidating all your blogs under this one roof? WordPress.com makes it really simple to import a blogspot/blogger blog as well as your rcv / rest of the old story wordpress site into here, including timestamps/comments/images/etc. You basically give it those web addresses and tell it to go, and all your content shows up over the next day or so. It’s up to personal taste and intention, but I like the longevity and cleanliness of having everything at one domain. Next time I am trying to find something I remember you writing, it would be only one website to search, not three. But just my two cents, and as always, I love what you write and will keep reading it either way. 🙂

    • paulfpavao says:

      Thanks, Ben. I have considered that, and I am considering it. I have wondered how easy that would be, so what you told me is the answer to a question I had.

      As soon as I’m comfortable that this is the format I like, I’m going to do that. So far, I’m really happy with this except I’m still figuring out how to get to my dashboard page easily. I’ll bookmark it as soon as I get there today. Who would have imagined that it would be so hard?

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